Why does FCA refuse to give us a diesel Wrangler?

"BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather" (bugeyedacura)
03/01/2015 at 11:17 • Filed to: None

I don't get it. I know that they don't want to use the Euro market 2.8 because it has no precedent here and would be expensive to certify, but why in the hell not the 3.0?! It's obviously set up to mount anywhere that the 3.6 is (look at the cars that it goes in) and would make for an easy swap. A Wrangler that could crack the 25mpg mark would be a revelation, why is this not happening?

DISCUSSION (12)

bob and john > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
03/01/2015 at 11:23

becuase our freedums.

actuial answer: too much of a pain in the ass to get it emissions legal (now, why the US and the world doesnt have 1 standard for emissions and safety, i will never know)

Matthew Phillips > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
03/01/2015 at 11:23

I wouldn't be surprised to see the next wrangler having a diesel option, in fact I can see a diesel Wenagler happening before a wrangler pickup truck.

The Gladiator was bad comedy

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > bob and john
03/01/2015 at 11:26

But the engine already exists over here in 2 much larger vehicles. at that point it's just slapping it in there and getting the certification.

dogisbadob > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
03/01/2015 at 11:32

Poor gas mileage. It's a Jeep thing.

Actually, the 2.8 *does* have a precedent here, the 04-06 Liberty diesel used that same 2.8 VM Motori and was sold in the US and was certified.

Also, the Euro-market diesels are built in the same Toledo factory as the ones we do get.

Holy Toledo they need to sell them to domestic buyers!

I want a RHD diesel manual Wrangler Unlimited.

jkm7680 > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
03/01/2015 at 11:33

Let's be honest here, the majority of the market are High School kids who are just fine with their automatic Pentastars. :P

bob and john > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
03/01/2015 at 11:47

right, I forgot it was in the ram.

maybe it has something to do witht he NVH levels? wranglers arent exactly the last word in lux, and that wouldnt help at all

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > bob and john
03/01/2015 at 13:33

But people don't buy them for their comfort, they buy them to say they have a Wrangler.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
03/01/2015 at 16:14

Because it's late in the the JK lifespan, and it isn't worth certifying it with a new engine. I would almost guarantee that the next generation will have one, since that has been an enthusiast demand(the ones that buy Jeeps) and the Pentastar has garnered a bad taste in some mouths.

Bad72AMX > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
03/01/2015 at 17:57

The entire emission system needs to be certified, not just the engine. Know why the 3.0L EcoDiesel isn't available in the single cab, short bed combo that would probably break 30mpg? Doing so would require a shorter exhaust post DPF, which would require certifying. The cost is too high to justify. It's the same in the Wrangler, but look for a diesel to come stateside in the redesign.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > bob and john
03/01/2015 at 18:47

What Jordan said. I think would only up the appeal to traditional Jeep buyers.

1.21 JIGGA WATTS!!! > bob and john
03/02/2015 at 08:39

I actually wondered the exact same thing, then I found this:

The U.S. has focused on reducing NOx and particulate matter since ULSD was mandated.

Generally, the Europeans have placed a higher priority on cutting CO2 and improving mpg, said Schaeffer.

This website should help.

It looks like Europe's diesels spew far more pollutants, particulates, and possible carcinogens into the air than America's do. I don't know about you, but I'm okay with lower diesel mileage in order to avoid something similar to "Black Lung"...

bryan40oop > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
03/05/2015 at 02:27

" Why does FCA refuse to give us a diesel Wrangler? "

Well.... the last diesel jeeps in the U.S. sold in dismal numbers.... Why would they want to lose money for a vehicle 3 or 5 people will buy? Lets be honest, people don't buy yeeps for MPG. They buy, lift them, and then there ready to traverse those treacherous speed bumps in mall parking lots.